What is the battle like to be a woman and be a senior pastor? Well, we asked Cherish Knudson of Ely MN to join us on the podcast to find out. Her husband, Patrick, also joined in to help answer some questions that generally come with the package deal of being married to a female pastor.

John and I discuss some facts about coffee, the recent teleportation news, and play a little game in our closing segment called “Guess that Record.”

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